There haven't been any ChangeLog updates in hours! Slackware's dead! -- GP From: Keith Keller % > Who is "Roger Maynard?" No. Who is an old rock and roll band, Who is a British sci fi time traveller, Horton hears a Who, Who put the bop in the bob shebop shebop, and Who's on first, but Who is not Roger Maynard, to the best of my knowledge. From: Old Man % Yugo [GP] Wrote: > Now, if everybody wants to believe that "development" is > processing at such a tremendous pace that The Man has no time to > fill the changelog, so be it! Pwnd. http://slackware.osuosl.org/slackware-current/ChangeLog.txt Sat Mar 17 19:14:35 CDT 2007 Happy St. Patrick's Day! :-) This is more-or-less stable (functionally), but there's still a lot of package splitting and other rearranging and adding to be done, but it's time for the Slackware community to see how far we've gotten. From: Robby Workman % I should have more confidence in man pages and be less lazy:-)) From: serge_moscou % Crap. I just realized I'm responding to rm. Now I want to ram my head through a window while holding a lighter under my bag screaming that I love The Honorable Reverend Jesse Jackson. From: A Guy Called Tyketto % What is it about "ln" that no one can ever remember the order the arguments should be stated? I struggle with this and it seems that I never get it right the first time. Maybe ln is coded such that the first way you call it is _always_ wrong, and it remembers your arguments, so when you flip them on the next invocation, it does the right thing? From: +Alan Hicks+ % One does not learn pico. One uses it and after about 5 minutes or 5 days one outgrows pico but no one ever learns pico. You can't learn something that wears its man page on the bottem two lines of the screen. From: Faux_Pseudo % Just making sure that you are, in fact, a troll. Thank you for confirming my suspicions. From: Keith Keller % I accidentally deleted my company inbox mail directory (SendMail). From: CL % I thought South was normally abbreviated "Dixie". From: +Alan Hicks+ % Aw damn! I could swear I was just talking to Pat about something in -current just the other day. Well I guess you're information is beyond question. I suppose I should stop using Slackware and go find some other distribution that is still being actively maintained. And shame on those people who are pretending to be Pat and distributed those security updates today! The nerve of some people! From: +Alan Hicks+ % That sleezy Daniel! I can't imagine why he would decide to stop working on the book when he finished it! From: +Alan Hicks+ % Oh my God! Slackware is bankrupt! Run for the hills everyone! The servers are all going dark tomorrow at noon! I can't believe this is happening; the four horseman of the Apocalypse have been released! From: +Alan Hicks+ % Thank you that some one has finally had the balls to point out that HTTP, SMTP, FTP, NFS, NIS, SMB, CIFS, SSH, telnet, POP3, IMAP, SASL, SSL, TLS, TCP, UDP, ICMP, IP, NTP, NNTP, DNS, TFTP, gopher, finger, biff, kerberos, LDAP, SQL, SNMP, BGP, IRC, IPX, syslog, and others are ALL defined standards and were defined that way because of all the non-Linux desktops from Redmond or Cupertino that are being used today, nevermind that there was not a concept of a "desktop" computer when many of these standards were first chiseled into clay tablets in Mesopotamia. From: +Alan Hicks+ % Go away troll, ya bother me. From: +Alan Hicks+ % Now, five people have responded to your question. The polite thing would be for you to acknowledge anyone who was helpful or to clarify your question, if none of the responses helped. From: Old Man % If some Joe Blow strolled on into this newsgroup and said something like installpkg has a bug in it that will crash the system when installing a custom package larger than say 50MB we would probably think he's insane even if it turns out he's right. From: +Alan Hicks+ % No, I totally ignored the word "headless". It didn't seem like an important part of the message. Since I didn't know what "headless" meant From: Joseph H. Rosevear % Your off of my holiday card list. So I suggest you go take a long walk in the Tatooine desert. From: gregg dot drwho8 atsign gmail dot com % Dan C wrote: > I'd recommend you use this command: format C: /u /y Don't publish untested commands. From: CBFalconer % Gee, who'd'a thought that KDE and the Athena widget set wouldn't play nice From: Chris Sorenson % You being cordial is like Mussolini and Eichmann inviting Ghandi and Anne Frank to dinner. From: A Guy Called Tyketto % Thanks; I didn't actually get RM's post, apparently my rules from however many years ago are still good :) Fred Emmott % This troll was clearly compiled with inferior tools. My guess is that it was created with Visual Troll++ and the Troll Foundation Class, or possibly TurboTroll 2000. These trolling tools are quite limited, and there is a severe garbage-collection related performance hit when you try to optimizing the output of VT++ for insults. IMO, you will get better results using GTC; the Gnu Troller Collection. GTC is the gold standard for creating trolls. It is also open Source, fully reentrant, and compliant with the Triple Troll, Troll-On-Troll and YATC protocols. From: Guy Macon % Do you ever count the drops of saliva that appear in your mouth when "FAQ Mod Quotes" is posted? From: paul_s % On Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2007 22:48:03 GMT, rm@biteme.org wrote: > Um, today is May 24th, 2007, in case anyone is really interested. That explains the mood-swings! From: Sylvain Robitaille % rm@biteme.org wrote: > Uh, yeah. That's my court date...a little confusing... Do you need character witnesses? From: Old Man % It is a lot easier to change to another bank than changing operating system. From: Henrik Carlqvist % You're kidding!! I bet you needed a tube of Preparation H, a Jack'n'Coke and a scrotal Ben Gay rub after coming to that revelation! Do bring up more of your epiphanies! They're better than listening to an angry Stevie Wonder or Ray Charles take the wheel of a Chinese tour bus in the rain! From: A Guy Called Tyketto % Trouble with man n00b is, the n00b won't google for man, let alone man n00b. From: Two Ravens % On Sun, 22 Apr 2007, Handover Phist wrote: > I've moved to Debian to have up to date software, There as a massive contradiction in terms From: Res % Glyn Millington wrote: >rm@biteme.org writes: >> What penalty or price is to be paid by those slackers who move from >> slackware (a hobbyist distro) to a real production linux/unix >> environment? >Such as? Just for starters, rather than having the finest *professional* distribution of Linux (i.e., Slackware) they are then restricted to something not nearly as well configured. That is pretty hefty penalty. From: Floyd L. Davidson % Using menus for everything is like driving to work and stopping at every intersection, pulling out a map before deciding which way to go. If you've driven it more than once or twice, you don't need the map. It's the same with software. From: Chris F.A. Johnson % It's unfair to blame linux, or Slackware, for what seems to be a user configuration issue. From: Keith Keller % Reinstall and consider it a lesson learned, n00b. From: Dan C % First of all you must ask yourself why you want to have two nics in one computer connected to the same subnet. From: Henrik Carlqvist % If you could do in BASIC what I do with sed, awk, and friends, I lift my hat in your general direction. but I don't believe that you could. Maybe you could, but certainly not as easily as it can be done with sed, awk, etc. From: Sylvain Robitaille % Like most prigs, you know fun only as something other people have at your expense. From: Old Man % I just think it is unfortunate Canada outlawed guns. I mean, you might come off your meds, and decide to play some russian roulette. You play it enough and you will eventually lose. We can all look forward to that. From: ~kurt % oh horseshit...we blame Americans for; - invading sovereign states that haven't threatened their national security - ruining the NHL - Brittany Spears - carbonating chilled urine and calling it "beer" From: the_bmac % In AOLS, if it isn't confusing, you haven't been paying attention. From: mark south % Hey, I run Slackware, I'm nothing if not bleeding edge :) From: nordle % Now stop telling so many lies, stop whining about everything all of you don't understand, and eat your bear liver like a good group of little boys... (It will give all of you a "new skin"...) From: Floyd L. Davidson % Years ago my young son told me that no one could 'win' an internet argument. He was right ;-) From: John K. Herreshoff % ITYM "If it ain't broke, it's because it's Slackware." From: mark south % Guy Macon wrote : > Every time that Windows crashes, a Devil gets his horns. Then there must be more devils with horns than angels. From: Thomas Overgaard % this is really off-topic for the AOLS-OT mailing list. :^) You should have asked in the newsgroup. From: +Alan Hicks+ In: Slackware-OT % I will admit my lack of familiarity with the many RFCs out there. However, elsewhere in this thread, multiple other posters have quite convincingly argued against your position and your statistics. Based on their arguments, if I find your MIME signature stuff too annoying, I can solve that by adding a few lines to my ~/News/Score file. From: Robert M. Riches Jr. % My sarcasm detector just started beeping. Hmmm... I wonder why it's doing that. From: Robert M. Riches Jr. % I no longer have a problem with ubuntu. I don't use it. From: notbob % You really are a dumb phuck, aren't you? Responding to someone who has killfiled you is more than merely stupid. From: Dave Uhring % Sam, I suspect the software you're using to post netnews articles may truly be misbehaving: it appears to be taking what may otherwise be strong (perhaps even well thought out and researched) arguments, and is translating them into arrogant, obnoxious, apparently deliberately confrontational diatribe, making it look as though you're purposely going against standards to provoke others into confrontation, thus causing them to search for evidence that you are indeed going against the standards. From: Sylvain Robitaille % you're a libelous piece of shit who needs to have your sack ripped off, placed in a burning sack of bovine feces, and slapped up the side of your head. From: A Guy Called Tyketto % Joseph H. Rosevear wrote: > What about ISA plug and play? I think it is a bad attempt to add functionality to a design that did not include that functionality. From: Henrik Carlqvist % LOL. You [rm] are truly pathetic. You can't tell a joke Geek Code (in this case, Animaniacs Code) fake message from an actual PGP-signed message. So bloody pathetic. From: A Guy Called Tyketto % After reading though, I think there wasn't much to miss by not being able to read them. He's acting a bit like the spawn of rm and Dan C. From: Melissa % Dan, please, you always've been proving to be quite loud and loud and also loud though a bit loud besides the times you were simply loud, but if you really intend to play this with your old friend from comp.mistles remember that pissing against a windmill has some side effects, mostly frontal. From: loki harfagr % notbob wrote: > What on Earth would I want to emulate on Windoze? The BSOD? > Repeated rebooting? Thousands of security holes? If you are going > to make an argument, at least pull you head out of make a valid > one. Hey, under QEMU I can reboot much faster and BSOD much less often than with the XP that came with my machines... How time saving !:D) From: loki harfagr % whoami(1) will advise the name of the dependency resolver in Slackware. From: Robby Workman % Perhaps you should learn what the purposes of each software is before making such ridiculous statements. From: Sylvain Robitaille % I dunno, you use a distro for 13 or 14 years, you learn some shit... ;) From: Chris Sorenson % No wonder the "modquote" selections are so pitiful. What on earth makes this statement worth reading in the first place, let alone repeating? From: Roland Morrison [RM] % Well, I don't want to help, and you're clearly not funny, so crack pipe here I come. From: Keith Keller % But why should you spend time disableing things it should not install in the first place. During install most other distro's don't let you chooce to use text-mode and if they offer it, you first have to read manuals on how to activate it. No thanks, please give me Slackware and keep it the way it is. From: Charles Collette % to give an idea of the answer to your burning question "what is the difference between Usenet and e-mail" that's the same that between a gangbang with real people and jacking alone watching a snuff-movie. From: loki harfagr % who the hell says n00b anymore ? piezza di merda! From: goarilla % What kind of person inserts his own name in a Usenet subject line? From: Rhonda Moffat [RM] % Aren't these some of the circles of hell? Ninth==Windows update hell Eighth==Windows dll hell Sixth==debian dependency hell Fourth==RPM dependency hell From: Keith Keller % the only things that separate it from others are the things it lacks... not has. From: ANC % Actually the thing that attracts me to Slackware is its slightly austere reputation. Plus its reputation for solid performance, something a little missing from the current Ubuntu release. And if there are a few crazies on the NG: welcome to Usenet :-) From: andrew % Gnome?! We don't need no stinking gnomes! As if the trolls weren't enough! From: Old Man % After being released from Slackware, Gnome has gone to work for travelocity ensuring to all that we never roam alone. From: MikeinAK % ...Two Ravens... Join your buddy in the balcony... :D From: "Paulo Costa" % >> > ps. I am *not* a troll one... > How the fuck was I trolling? two... > I wasn't fucking trolling. three strikes you're out! From: Keith Keller % I have never had a problem with Pat's release dates. He waits until he gets all the niggles out and if he misses one big deal. The way he sticks to open standards makes it extremely easy to simply fix it yourself. From: Ron Gibson % and though it's been said, many times many ways, fu -uck you -ou fu -uck you -ou fu -uck you -ou and your market share too -oo From: the_bmac % By the way, if you take Roger's advice and search the archives for Alan Hicks' involvement, you'll learn that Hicks has made contributions that PV recognized as valuable. For some reason this annoys the hell out of Roger. You should take everything Roger writes with several grains of salt. And fair warning, he's _very_ sensitive about his sister and her friends. From: Old Man % Mr DanC: you remind me those two old farts in the balcony in "The Muppet Show"... ;) From: Paulo Costa % Allow me to congratulate you on your erudite riposte. Witty and succinct, yet deeply profound. Did you by any chance attend the Dan C School of Reading & Comprehension? From: ChuMaiFat % There is only one of us. From: Roger Manyard % the linux/unix OS is not that difficult to understand, and there is all kinds of info out there explaining it. The windoze stuff, on the other hand, changes every five minutes and nobody except, perhaps, Bill Gates' pet poodle, really knows what the hell is going on there. From: Roger Manyard % Your question is based on the premise a troll has a life. From: notbob % A crucial program for my day to day work is kpat (KDE solitaire)! From: Manimoto %